Posts by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

after reading some of todays posts, incuding the one started by reneeisorym( http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/144783/1.ashx), i can't help but fee so sad for all of you who have been hurt by the wts and their stupid policies.

for the life of me, i can't understand how any parent can do this to their child, no matter how old the child is.

as far as i'm concerned, it's child abandonment and child abuse.

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Oppgirl, you rock. Thanks for being here.

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I'm sitting here with a gun in my hand...

by zeroday in

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and watching "dirty harry" .

go ahead make my day....

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Gun control means. . .hitting your target.

Not 'backard' but up. . .we have a buddy who is an experienced shooter who we visited with at Sportman's Warehouse where he works the gun counter, well he's got a large bandaid on his forehead this day. He one-handed a friend's S&W500--how hard can it kick, he said-- so much muzzle flip he cracked himself in the forehead with it, the hammer left a nasty remembrance that needed a couple of stitches, plus, the shock of impact made him fire a second (DA) time, straight up through the ceiling. He saw daylight at the indoor range.

Pretty damn funny.

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Lived through Danny H incident / Trevorgate? Do you feel a bit changed?

by nvrgnbk in

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surely these two events/situations/happenings mean little, nothing even, to those in the real world.. but since we're witnesses( some participatory) to them, they've affected us.. alot "went down" in a relatively short period of time.. do you feel the effects have been mostly positive, an opportunity to grow perhaps?.

or do you feel adversely affected?.

what about any lasting effects( positive or negative) you think they may have on the way ex-jws interact as a community?.

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

NVR and Ninja, this is proof that you have scammed us all. Linda was a Lesbian.

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I'm curious what the message in the Bible is to you?

by blueviceroy in

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we all have our own understanding of the christian belief , but i was wondering what others interpret the stories as .. and if it isn't what guides your journey what does?

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Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Great topic.

After some thought, I view the bible as an evil tool to divide families and people. We have laws, wherever we live, that tell us what is acceptable behavior and they are enforceable, easy stuff for the majority--stealing, murder, driving while buzzed, trepassing. They are written to protect people from harm by other people.

The bible however condemns me for the way I think and what I feel and what I desire to do with my life.

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Why not use real demons in movies?

by White Dove in

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why does hollywood use special effects for demonized movies if demons are supposed to be real?

that has bothered me for years.

i did ask this question in a tiny post on another thread but thought this question needed some considering.

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Great one! Funny, we haven't been bothered by any since we left the protection of the WT Mob Organization like they said we would.

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NEWBIE, WHEN WILL GUILTY FEELINGS GO AWAY?

by BIG D in

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i have been in all my life, im a fader, father, elder, i was ms for 5 years, raising my 3 boys alone for 4 years , single, brought many people in jw, all of my family in, i know its fake, but i went to my sons game and when the anthem came on, i wouldnt put my hand on my heart, and then looked around to see if anyone saw me, when will these guilty feelings go away?.

big d.

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Greetings and Welcome!

I think that the guilt started to slip when I found I was really enjoying life for the FIRST TIME, not watching what I was saying and thinking every minute of the day and got away from people who were doing the same. Both my husband and I made new friends and began associating with new people, and found we really listened to how they felt and saw how they lived and we stopped judging them, then stopped judging ourselves.

You mention going to your son's game, which is a naughty to JWs, but how important is that you as a parent and to your son!!! WT has the 'seen/not heard/pioneered' mentality about children, rather than loved/guided/prepared.

Also, when I realized that we will not live forever, as I was programmed to think (the belief tells you that you can and should put off indefinitely what brings you satisfaction ), I started to grasp the meaning of life to an extent, that we should be happy and enjoying our loved ones and feeling satisfaction from what we do, because life is short, and that makes it all the more precious.

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Do YOU Hate Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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i don't hate the people.

i feel bad for many of them.

i don't like the religion because it is a cult.

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Yes.

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Hey, my Catholic grandmother shunned my JW mother, and now. . .

by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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my jw mother shuns me.

i just figured this out.

when my parents became hohos in 1974 in az, my mother preached the sh*t out of everyone, so that her catholic mother and sisters couldn't stand her.

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

my JW mother shuns me.

I just figured this out. When my parents became Hohos in 1974 in AZ, my mother preached the sh*t out of everyone, so that her Catholic mother and sisters couldn't stand her. Once, we were visiting the grandparents in Indiana, and in the car my mom started this this, what turned into a rant about Jehoho this Jehoover that, in the new system I'll have a lion bs, and my grandmother expertly turned her head in frustration and said, "Look at that cornfield!" That was a joke of our for many years until she died, then it was funnier still, you could effectively end any conversation abruptly in our house with the cornfield observation.

Early on in our fade, my mother wrote how I had hurt her so much because we were so close, and I said something like 'knock it off, why can't we be friends? leave your religion out of our relationship', so naturally then she recounted what wonderful parents they were and how I had pioneered for so long and now I wouldn't get to the new world just like what's his name in the bobble, standing on the hill overlooking the promised land knowing he would die, and thus I ended an email conversation with my mother with, "Look at that cornfield!"

It's just history repeating itself.

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New generation change: blaming rank & file again?

by Ozner in

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the worst part of the "1995 generation change"- implementation was for me personaly the watchtower study-article defining the new (or changed) doctrine.

the article mentioned that rank & file witness "thought" that the generation was related to 1914 because they want it so.

it hurted me deeply and i am still agry (12 years later!)..

Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

Sick.

I remember I was at a door, reading Matt 24 verses to a young man explaining that the end was just around the corner because people around in 1914 were getting old and my service partner nudged me and said, 'no, that's the old understanding, it's changed' and we're whispering at this guy's door, i said, 'it's changed? to what?' I was blank and ended it soon after, 'so, i have this book for you. . .'

Jeanniebeanz, you make a great statement, your dad is a smart man and falls for this stuff every 20 years or so, they are ENTRANCED by the GB.